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STM32H7 FMC and 16bits device

Alex_J
Associate II

Hello,

I'm kind of newbie in the STM32 world, I'm more used with another brand of 32bits microcontroller that also have a "parrallel port" for interfacing external ram device.

My concern is about the FMC on the STM32H7.

I want to read/write a 16bits device.

Currently I'm using this configuration (almost the default one) :

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My code for testing a write operation :

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....

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I can't see any problem in the code but when I check signals with an oscilloscope, I can see that the CPU is issuing 4 consecutive write operation :

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A0 / A1 are also increasing as if the CPU is writing to 4 different places.

How can it be possible.

I have seen in the datasheet that when AXI bus and external bus is different size, it can occurs. But in that case how to perform a correct 16 bit operation ??

Other people seems to have this kind of trouble but nobody replied with a solution :

https://community.st.com/t5/stm32-mcus-products/h7-series-fmc-question/td-p/131535

https://community.st.com/t5/stm32-mcus-embedded-software/fmc-accessed-in-32-bit-but-cs-asserted-for-twice-long-64-bits/m-p/274657

Thanks in advance for any help

 

 

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Alex_J
Associate II

Currently, I manage to make it work but it's not the way I thought.

I had to change the bank address to 0xC0000000

and deactivate MPU.

I can see one write cycle and my device is now working as expected.

But I'm not sure it's a good idea to deactivate the MPU.

I later found this related thread :

https://community.st.com/t5/stm32-mcus-touchgfx-and-gui/stm32h743ii-fmc-8080-lcd-spurious-writes/td-p/354191

 

By the way, it's sad that cubeide didn't warm you about the bank remapping needed in 16 bits mode needed for sram/nor/lcd..

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TDK
Super User

The HAL_SRAM_Write_16b function only does 32-bit word-aligned accesses. There may be an underlying hardware reason for this. To write 16 bits, it reads 32 bits, applies the mask, then writes 32 bits.

stm32h7xx-hal-driver/Src/stm32h7xx_hal_sram.c at 85d65b023f9621e417177a87553d25b7b387239f · STMicroelectronics/stm32h7xx-hal-driver

Four CS operations matches this behavior. Two 16-bit reads plus two 16-bit writes.

 

If you want a 16-bit access, I'd just do a 16-bit access write.

*(volatile uint16_t*)address = value;

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Alex_J
Associate II

@TDK Thanks for your fast answer, but I quickly tried your solution :

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But I still get the 4 write operations.

The goal is to write to a peripheral that will only accept one write operation by 16bits data. 

Pavel A.
Super User

While waiting for better answers, can you do another quick experiment?

Using the MPU disable caching on your external memory window.

Per AN4839, the 0x60000000-0x7FFFFFFF range on STM32H7 is "normal memory", cacheable. What you see could be loading the 32-byte cache line and write back.

Also, check the suitable memory mode for FMC: should it be "SRAM" or other? 

 

Alex_J
Associate II

@Pavel A.

Thanks for your answer, but currently, caching is disable for this region :

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waclawek.jan
Super User

> when I check signals with an oscilloscope, I can see that the CPU is issuing 4 consecutive write operation :

How do you know those are *write* operations? Which signal do you display there?

Do you have that area set as Device or as Memory in MPU?

JW

Alex_J
Associate II

I'm sorry that I forgot to mention that the signal shown is the WE send from the STM32 to the device.

waclawek.jan
Super User

Do you have the used FMC memory area set as Device or as Memory in MPU?

JW

Alex_J
Associate II

@waclawek.jan 

Either I don't know where to search for this option, either it did not exist xD :

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Edit :

I also try to deactivate the MPU without success, I still have 4 write cycle.

waclawek.jan
Super User

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I don't use CubeMX and have no idea how those clickable things translate to the MPU settings, sorry. Maybe somebody more versed in Cube/CubeMX will chime in.

(I should have written "Normal" instead of "Memory" above).

I don't know which 'H7 you are using, so I looked into RM0433 (for 'H743 and kin) and there's an option to remap the SRAM/NOR area of FMC to a different address, which is by default set to Device:

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The remap in the 'H743 is accomplished through setting the FMC_BCR1.BMAP bitfield

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However, if you apply MPU settings onto a memory area, its those MPU settings which override the defaults, so here you would perhaps want to do only the remap without using MPU at all.

Again, I have no idea how is this clicked in CubeMX.

And still, this is just one thing to try, I don't say this will certainly solve your problem. The Cortex-M7 is an overcomplicated beast and the 'H7 in particular adds a couple of extra layers of complexities to it.

JW