CubeIDE forcing you to login to ST [...] - Follow up

[CBerg]

The original Thread "CubeIDE forcing you to login to ST ...", opened by @JDoe.2 in August 2023 with 37 Kudos for JDoe

got shut down (flagged as read-only) today with a last statement by @Amel NASRI which is marked as "Solution".

Congratulations ST, now I am really upset. Now I know you read the community postings, you just prefer to ignore them if they are annoying. Flagging a thread as read only and posting an "alibi" technical solution where the thread clearly shows that thread was not about technical issues in common, but your customers do not want to be forced to log in to use your product is an affront against all those people who spoke out against those new policies.

Please take this posting as my formal protest against your action.

Edit: shortened Title to reflect the note from Amel

[CBerg]

Long time no update! Has ST finally removed that sh***y mandatory login? Or do they still insist in annoying their users?

[STOne-32]

Dear @CBerg , @Techn  @JDoe.2  @unsigned_char_array  @Pavel A.,

I wanted to share these actions that we are implementing to Try to make our STM32 Developers  experience more appropriate and simple while Downloading then Installing and using STM32CubeIDE here :

https://www.st.com/en/development-tools/stm32cubeide.html

Action 1: implemented already  -  we limit the download options to only last 4 versions. In case of older versions requested - to contact us via Online Support .

>> This will reduce the Web page hangs in some browsers and configuration and we launch it for a testing purpose till end of the Year with full monitoring of the downloads.

Action 2 :  After installation and while using the STM32CubeIDE we limit the Login and user authentification to “Only” downloading operations  as follow starting for Today release V1.17.0.

I know this is not yet an optimal solution for long term that needs more engineering effort but some incremental changes to make the less frustrated customers and developers . Your voice Matters  I wanted to thank all of you as we are listening and taking your feedback in actions .

Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family

Ciao

STOne-32 

[CBerg]

even if it's not the optimal solution: you heard us and you did not give a f*** on your users like many other big tech corps do. There is hope ;) Thanks and take my kudo.

[CBerg]

BTW: @STOne-32 - as you mentioned a redesign of the download options on the ST website: logging in there for downloading the IDE or other software was never a problem for me. For me the main issue - as discussed in this thread and the ancestor thread - was always just the issue with the mandatory login in the IDE, not on the website.

This mandatory login in the CubeIDE gives the user the feeling ST could shut that software down - or limit its function to render it useless - if the user-account is closed/suspended (for what ever reason) which - de facto - gives ST the power to decide if someone can work with their tools or not, after the client made the decision to work with ST MCUs / tools.

For me, this would be "life threatening", I would potentially loose the work of years, including the redesign of several PCBs, if you would do this. And empowering yourself to be capable of doing that feels like someone is running behind me with a loaded gun pointing on me. I really don't like that, and therefore you got this strong form of protest, with strong words ;)

Besides that: my issue with the ST website is, that I use Firefox with several addons for privacy and javascript blocking, plus a PiHole and I barely can get to the login form, because your website is so messed up with trackers, analytics and all that stuff from external domains. I have to pull my "pants down" completely and be lucky to get it running with Firefox, or use Edge with almost no restrictions.