2024-08-15 01:21 AM
Hello,
I am using a CC4V-T1A-32.768KHZ-12.5PF-20PPM-TA-QC crystal with 22pF caps on a STM32F407ZGT6.problem with some devices the crystal does not oscillate.could the crystal or the capacitors be wrongly designed?
What can we change?
Thanks for your help
2024-08-15 01:35 AM
Welcome @Michael99, to the community!
Problems with the very sensitive LSE have often been discussed here on the community. They occur if you do not follow the recommendations of AN2867 closely enough, where sections 7.1 and 7.2 in particular provide detailed instructions.
What does your layout around the LSE Crystal and the STM32 look like?
Regards
/Peter
2024-08-15 03:01 AM
Hello Peter,
Thanks for the quick reply.
Attached is a part of the board with the LSE Oscillator.
We have tested leaving out the two capacitors on the quartz, result: the quartz oscillates.
We did the stability calculations for the AN2867 and the result was ok.
Is it better to use a crystal with a smaller load capacitance, perhaps 6pF?
Greetings
Michael
2024-08-15 03:24 AM
The immediately obvious main problem in your layout is the insufficient GND of the crystals, which, as mentioned, has a particular effect on the LSE. If you take a look at section 7.2 in the aforementioned AN2867, e.g. fig. 14, you will notice that:
I strongly recommend to adjust this in your layout.
You haven't shown the other layers under the crystal, but if there are tracks with signal edges, the problem is exacerbated.
Regards
/Peter
2024-08-15 03:33 AM
We only have one small problem.
The layout is in series production. All approvals have been completed.
Is there any other possibility than changing the layout?