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I have question on STM32F777 RTC and super cap

Chiku
Associate II

I wanted to use RTC Circuit for Supercap.

I have designed circuit (Check Attached snapshot).

but i dont get back up time? can anyone explain do we need to do any provision in controller.

It seems that capacitor is discharging very fast0693W00000JPlkbQAD.jpg

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SStor
Senior

Seems that the high leakage current of zener diode discharges the supercap.

Try to decouple zener diode from supercap with a diode with very low reverse current.

Chiku
Associate II

Yes.. by removing zener.. Supercap voltage is decreasing as per expectations.

BZX84-B zener diode has reverse current of 5uA at Reverse leakage voltage of 1V.

in our case we have zero reverse voltage.

Still i dont understand which parameter of Datasheet causing this problem.

https://assets.nexperia.com/documents/data-sheet/BZX84_SER.pdf

Can you please which parameter we need to check so that alternate zener could be selected.

SStor
Senior

Fig.5 on page 10 in BZX84 datasheet shows the dependency of reverse current IR from reverse voltage VR. So for type 3V3 IR is ~20mA at 3V (limited with R140), ~100µA at 2V and ~5µA at 1V (STM32F777 requires VBAT > 1.65V).

VR is the same voltage as the supercap because the Z-Diode is parallel. Therefore the supercap will discharge very fast over 1V through zener diode beaviour.

The current over D3 in Z-Diode is also not limited in the current circuit.

You should simply place the Z-Diode on the other side of D2 to eliminate these problems with Z-Diode.