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STM32H7R3. SMPS and VCORE.

Pawel Piwowarski
Associate II

Hello

Can anybody explain how it is possible to power VCORE directly from SMPS output?

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I see that SMPS have only two possible output voltages, 1.8V and 2.5V:

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But VCORE accepts absolute maximum of 1.4V.

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So how it is possible with LDO bypassed?

Best Regards

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ELABI.1
ST Employee

Hi @Pawel Piwowarski 

Depending on the mode you wish to work in,

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you need to properly set the bits (SDHILEVEL, SMPSEXTHP, SDEN, LDOEN, BYPASS) found in Table 44. Supply Configuration Control in the Reference Manual RM0477

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For the SDHILEVEL bit, which controls whether the SMPS outputs 1.8V or 1.2V

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  • If this bit is set to 0 -> 1.2V
  • If it is set to 1 -> 1.8V

Thank you.

ELABI.1

 

 

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ELABI.1
ST Employee

Hi @Pawel Piwowarski 

Depending on the mode you wish to work in,

ELABI1_0-1738236134003.png

you need to properly set the bits (SDHILEVEL, SMPSEXTHP, SDEN, LDOEN, BYPASS) found in Table 44. Supply Configuration Control in the Reference Manual RM0477

ELABI1_2-1738236755025.png

 

For the SDHILEVEL bit, which controls whether the SMPS outputs 1.8V or 1.2V

ELABI1_1-1738236660572.png

  • If this bit is set to 0 -> 1.2V
  • If it is set to 1 -> 1.8V

Thank you.

ELABI.1

 

 

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Thanks.

So there are two additional information, important for me:

1. SMPS may have different voltage than 1.8 / 2.5 V.

2. There are another power mode, not indicated in schematic: SMPS on, VCORE powered from SMPS but with LDO on.

Thanks for this.

Best regards.

Hi @Pawel Piwowarski,

When the LDO is on, it only powers the Vcore. You cannot power the Vcore with both the SMPS and the LDO at the same time.

Thanks.

ELABI.1

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I mean the situation when VCORE is powered from SMPS thru LDO.

This mode is not listed here:

PawelPiwowarski_1-1738260972593.png

But it was mentioned here:

PawelPiwowarski_2-1738261054404.png

 

The closest mode is mode 3, when we externally make this connection:

PawelPiwowarski_5-1738261474991.png

But for some reason, You didn't include this mode in the documentation.

Does someone has more information on this usecase? CubeMX also allows this mode on a H7R/S controller: SupplySource can be set to PWR_SMPS_1V8_SUPPLIES_LDO or PWR_SMPS_1V8_SUPPLIES_EXT_AND_LDO.

I've also seen this mode in reference manuals of other controller families, but as @Pawel Piwowarski already mentioned, it is missing in the Power supply management chapter of the RM.

Two more questions coming up to this configuration:

  • Does the integrated bootloader also support this?
  • I assume, I can power my xSPI peripheral and external RAM/Flash with the 1.8V of the SMPS this way (using option PWR_SMPS_1V8_SUPPLIES_EXT_AND_LDO)?

Hi @Pawel Piwowarski,

For this mode in the STM32H7RS, it's not supported. Therefore, the phrase mentioned in Table 44: "SMPS step-down converter enabled at 1.35 V, may be used to supply the LDO" will be updated in the next release.

Note: You need to update your datasheet document because I noticed there is a difference between Table 28 SMPS step-down converter characteristics for external usage which exists on the website and your version.

Your screenshot:

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Which exists on the website:

ELABI1_1-1747231189263.jpeg

Thank you.

ELABI.1

 

 

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