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Two VREF+ pins on STM32G474Q?

EThom.3
Senior

When I first glanced through the STM32G474 datasheet, I saw VREF+ and VREF- on pins 43 and 44 on the LQFP128 package. "Cool", I thought, although I had no significant need for an actual VREF- pin.

However, when I was making a schematics symbol, I noticed that the two pins are in fact VREF+ and VREF+. Apparently, the exact same thing on two pins next to each other.

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Does anyone know why this is? It makes perfect sense to have multiple pins for supply voltage and ground. But for a reference voltage? I have found no explanation in the datasheet or the reference manual.

This question was asked in another thread in December, but no answer was provided. Thread with original question:

https://community.st.com/t5/stm32-mcus-products/vref-stm32g474qe/m-p/750453 

 

Edit: added screenshot

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Thanks! :thumbs_up:

I tried to find the schematic, but didn't succeed.

I agree with you that they are most likely internally connected. The reason for it, I won't even try to guess.

Criminy!

I scoured the "Documentation" tab, without realising that the schematic was in the "CAD Resources" tab.

[Face palm]

Hello all,

Our feedback regarding this subject:

The purpose to have two VREF+ pins is to decrease (to 1/2) the inductance of the bonding wires + lead frame. VREF+ is very sensitive to perfect decoupling (strong voltage) - but when the inductance of wire from pin to the pad on chip is too high then the VREF+ voltage on the die is not perfectly decoupled (there is large inductance). The inductance magnitude is too high on large packages - like LQFP128 (larger wires from pin to pad on chip). Smaller packages inductance is acceptable but for LQFP128 we should decrease this inductance and two VREF+ pins were designed there.

So it's recommended to connect both VREF+ pins externally (even they are internally connected).

I've already suggested (internally) to add a note on the pinout table 2 on both VREF+ pins to connect them externally.

 

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markproplayers
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Great observation, it seem amazing