STM32H563VI Octo-SPI interface dummy cycles

[Ez]

Hi,

someone can explain me how to calculate the "dummy cycles" number reading an external flash qspi such as the Winbond W25Q64JV ?

I have to read in qspi mode with the Fast Read Quad I/O (EBh) command in SDR mode. The flash memory datasheet asks for 4 dummy cycles between addressing and data available.

In effect, if I set 4 dummy cycles, the first data byte is lost. On the contrary, if I set 6 dummy cycles, the read operation success.

I think this depend to the Pre-drive time, but how can I calculate the effective dummy cycles to apply, to be sure that all the reading will be done correctly ?

Thank you.

[Foued_KH]

Hello @Ez , 

I think that you can contact the manufacture for more details because the datasheet refer to 4 dummy cycles 
"four Dummy clocks are required in SPI mode prior to the data output"

Foued

[Ez]

Hi Foued,

thank you for your answer but in the STM32H5xx reference manual there is this figure about the dummy cycles

As you can see, the Dummy Cycles contains a "Pre-Drive" time that is not described in anywhere, and moreover in the same Reference Manual, speaking about the Dummy Cycle Phase, I found this:

What does it mean "there must be at least one dummy cycle" ....?? Means one, two, three, or so many?

In my opinion, I have to clarify this before ask to the memory manufacturer, because it is not clear.

Moreover, I found some drivers for the same flash memory on GitHub where the dummy cycles has been increased to 6, I think for the same reason:

https://github.com/Crazy-Geeks/STM32-W25Q-QSPI/blob/main/Library/w25q_mem.c

where you can find:

/**
* @brief W25Q Read any 8-bit data from raw addr
* Read any 8-bit data from preffered chip address
*
* @note Address is in [byte] size
* @note Be carefull with page overrun
* @PAram[out] buf Pointer to data to be written (single or array)
* @PAram[in] data_len Length of data (1..256)
* @PAram[in] rawAddr Start address of chip's cell
* @return W25Q_STATE enum
*/
W25Q_STATE W25Q_ReadRaw(u8_t *buf, u16_t data_len, u32_t rawAddr) {
if (data_len > 256 || data_len == 0)
return W25Q_PARAM_ERR;

while (W25Q_IsBusy() == W25Q_BUSY)
w25q_delay(1);

QSPI_CommandTypeDef com;

com.InstructionMode = QSPI_INSTRUCTION_1_LINE; // QSPI_INSTRUCTION_...
#if MEM_FLASH_SIZE > 128U
com.Instruction = W25Q_FAST_READ_QUAD_IO_4B; // Command
com.AddressSize = QSPI_ADDRESS_32_BITS;
#else
com.Instruction = W25Q_FAST_READ_QUAD_IO; // Command
com.AddressSize = QSPI_ADDRESS_24_BITS;
#endif
com.AddressMode = QSPI_ADDRESS_4_LINES;

com.Address = rawAddr;

com.AlternateByteMode = QSPI_ALTERNATE_BYTES_NONE;
com.AlternateBytes = QSPI_ALTERNATE_BYTES_NONE;
com.AlternateBytesSize = QSPI_ALTERNATE_BYTES_NONE;

com.DummyCycles = 6;
com.DataMode = QSPI_DATA_4_LINES;
com.NbData = data_len;

com.DdrMode = QSPI_DDR_MODE_DISABLE;
com.DdrHoldHalfCycle = QSPI_DDR_HHC_ANALOG_DELAY;
com.SIOOMode = QSPI_SIOO_INST_EVERY_CMD;

if (HAL_QSPI_Command(&hqspi, &com, HAL_QSPI_TIMEOUT_DEFAULT_VALUE)
!= HAL_OK)
return W25Q_SPI_ERR;

if (HAL_QSPI_Receive(&hqspi, buf, HAL_QSPI_TIMEOUT_DEFAULT_VALUE) != HAL_OK)
return W25Q_SPI_ERR;

return W25Q_OK;
}

[Tesla DeLorean · Accepted solution]

It's 6 in your case because you fail to deal with the Mode/Alternate bits that the part is expecting...

[Ez]

you are a genius 😀