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Calculating Rext after increasing LSE Drive Level on STM32H7

jmh299
Visitor

Hello,

A design I am working on utilizes a LSE crystal with the following parameters:

f = 32.768kHz
CL = 12.5pF
Co = 0.9pF
ESR = 50kR Max
DL = 1uW MAX

I am calculating gmcrit ~ 1.52uA/V.  According to table 5 in AN2867, the drive level should be set to Medium High, will REXT required?  The design is already produced without REXT so adding it is not advised if avoidable.

I don't have the instrumentation to measure the actual drive level as it requires ~0.1pF probes for proper measurement.  There is no indication of LSE max drive current for the H7, the datasheet only specifies 550nA IDD at medium high.

Should I be concerned that Medium High may violate 1uW?

Thanks

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mƎALLEm
ST Employee

Hello @jmh299 and welcome to the ST community,

Rext is required only if If DL > DLcrystal.

Please refer to the application note AN2867 "Guidelines for oscillator design on STM8AF/AL/S and STM32 MCUs/MPUs":

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Please also refer to the section 3.5 Drive level and external resistor calculation in the same application note

Hope that helps.

 

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I have read AN2867, unfortunately I do not have the instrumentation to perform these measurements accurately.  I was not sure if there was any rule of thumb regarding the drive level setting and the drive current.

Thanks

You need at least to measure VPP with an oscilloscope, otherwise you cannot continue:

mALLEm_1-1751035925182.png

 

 

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I do not have a 0.1pF probe to make an accurate measurement, I can attempt to but I believe a standard probe will affect the measurement as it will greatly impact the load capacitance.

The probe should not exceed 1pF of capacitance not 0.1pF:

mALLEm_0-1751037273688.png

 

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Ok in the note it indicates it should not exceed 0.1pF (for the voltage measurement)

I need to escalate that internally for the verification (for the current measurement)

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jmh299
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Just as an update, I measured with my lab equipment albeit not 0.1pF-1pF per suggested as we don't have that kind of instrumentation.  
Used a standard 18.5-22.5pF passive probe.

Measured 224mV Pk-Pk on Medium High.

If using the combined capacitance of the passive probe(18.5-22.5pF) and the oscilloscope (18pF) itself ~0.0373uW seems awfully low and well within spec but not sure how much my measurement method is affecting this.

Thanks