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waclawek.jan
waclawek.jan
Super User
Mar 6, 2024 10:42 AM UTC
Question

Please remove Related Content

1. It's useless.

As it's not curated, the vast majority of links is entirely irrelevant to given post. Machines are too ***, even if you call it AI.

2. It's harmful.

It provides false keywords for external search machines such as google, making it harder to find genuine content.

3. given 1, and 2, it's just pure waste of bandwidth.

JW

 

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    Andrew Neil
    Andrew Neil
    Super User
    Mar 7, 2024 11:55 AM UTC

    A vote from @Tesla DeLorean  in favour of keeping it - I'd tend to agree:

     

    @Tesla DeLorean wrote:

    I do kind of like having this, not sure how good the heuristics are, but it helps to find other threads.

    It shouldn't list the current threads, that's just circular, and makes no sense.

    On mobile it's at the end of the page.

    Needs up/down voting to improve relevance metrics to teach the algorithm. 

    See: 

    https://community.st.com/t5/feedback-forum/add-solved-flag-in-related-content/m-p/647755/highlight/true#M1103

    That's from my thread suggesting that the 'Solved' flag should be include in the 'Related Content' list.

    A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that worked.A complex system designed from scratch never works and cannot be patched up to make it work.
      Lina_DABASINSKAITE
      Lina_DABASINSKAITE
      ST Community Manager
      Mar 7, 2024 12:14 PM UTC

      Hello @waclawek.jan , 

      Great example of sharing an opposing view on the same feature. Currently, we are looking into the feature enchantment brought by@Andrew Neil but we are happy to hear more views on this. 

      Thanks a lot for sharing yours! 
      Lina

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      Tesla DeLorean
      Tesla DeLorean
      Guru
      Mar 7, 2024 2:56 PM UTC

      Perhaps some of these features can be suppressed via check box items the user chooses in their "View / Presentation" type settings

      Perhaps as a Low Bandwidth / Minimal Clutter setting?

      Having the engine "Score" how relevant it thinks something is, might enlighten as to "How" it's working, or if something needs tweaking.

      Having the Post Count, and Kudos might also be a good metric to be outputting

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        Tesla DeLorean
        Tesla DeLorean
        Guru
        Mar 7, 2024 12:39 PM UTC

        Like a lot of things on these corporate "forums" there just seem to be so many missed opertunities to build anything properly. As Andrew indicates having a solved flag and some kind of up/down sentiment, or up/down relevance metric.

        Everyone seems scared of negative voting, but there needs to be some way to deweight things that are unhelpful or wrong.

        If there are bullying issues let's address those directly,  but let's not cripple the ability to train the system as to what bad content / associativy is.

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          Andrew Neil
          Andrew Neil
          Super User
          Mar 7, 2024 1:35 PM UTC
          @Tesla DeLorean wrote:

           there needs to be some way to deweight things that are unhelpful or wrong.

          Absolutely!

          A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that worked.A complex system designed from scratch never works and cannot be patched up to make it work.
            Tesla DeLorean
            Tesla DeLorean
            Guru
            Jul 12, 2024 6:26 PM UTC

            Ok, not sure this is where I should post this observation, but I can't find the "self referential" thread for the time being.

            I think one of @Lina_DABASINSKAITE 's posts indicating it was fixed / addressed

            But I keep noticing the Matrix glitching, most of the time it's fixed, but I still see it occasionally.

            It looks to be dependent on the post you land on.

            https://community.st.com/t5/stm32-mcus-embedded-software/stm32h753-uart-baud-is-15-low/m-p/697049#M49474

            If I go to my own post via the Alerts it keys on the "15%" reference in THAT post and suggests this same thread as a "Related" one, whereas at the top-level post/thread it doesn't. If that makes sense to the team.

            selfrelated001.jpg

            The primary issue has been fixed, this is just a bit disconcerting at times, and that the "related" pane is more dynamic and changeable than I had thought/expected. If I enter via different alerts, or follow the link, the list changes again.

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            Andrew Neil
            Andrew Neil
            Super User
            Jul 23, 2024 4:52 PM UTC
            @Tesla DeLorean wrote:

            Ok, not sure this is where I should post this observation, but I can't find the "self referential" thread for the time being.

            Here:

            https://community.st.com/t5/feedback-forum/related-content-pointing-to-the-same-thread/td-p/651507

             

            @Tesla DeLorean wrote:

            I think one of @Lina_DABASINSKAITE 's posts indicating it was fixed / addressed.

            Yes - ‎2024-07-01:

            https://community.st.com/t5/feedback-forum/related-content-pointing-to-the-same-thread/m-p/692217/highlight/true#M1498

            I confirmed it then, but since then it's been happening again:

            https://community.st.com/t5/feedback-forum/related-content-pointing-to-the-same-thread/m-p/692734/highlight/true#M1514

            I've been seeing it quite a lot recently

            A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that worked.A complex system designed from scratch never works and cannot be patched up to make it work.
              Tesla DeLorean
              Tesla DeLorean
              Guru
              Jul 23, 2024 8:31 PM UTC

              I don't know, there are occasions where it renders a list of stuff which I struggle to see as "related"

              I suspect "break" or "broken" get stated a lot.. as is "not working"

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              Lina_DABASINSKAITE
              Lina_DABASINSKAITE
              ST Community Manager
              Jul 23, 2024 4:33 PM UTC

              Hi @Tesla DeLorean ,

              Thanks a lot for sharing this, it is very valuable to further understand this bug!

              I will add it to ongoing investigation. 

              If you notice anything else, let me know. 

              Thanks,
              Lina
               

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                Kraal
                Jul 24, 2024 6:53 AM UTC

                Hi,

                It seems that the accuracy of the related content depends on the number of replies.

                About a week ago while I was reading a thread I saw that none of the suggestions were related to the original post. IIRC there were maybe 3 posts total.

                But today for this thread, the related content are accurate.

                BR.

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