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excuse me all very interesting but unfortunately there is a serious anomaly on which java virtual machines to install minimal prerequisites i have to work with cube ide, cube mx ,cube programmer ,cube mon windows 10 64bit
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https://community.st.com/s/question/0D53W00000KIB3XSAX/stm32cubemx-which-jre-to-use-
https://community.st.com/s/question/0D53W00000KonaSSAR/stm32cubeprogrammer-zulu8-jre-recommended
Pretty sure CubeIDE installs its own Java version.
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