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damon kutten
Associate II
Jul 29, 2020 9:49 PM UTC
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I have a question about the STM32H743...

If this device is powered-down (i..e voltage is 0 on all rails), what impedance will be presented by the Port pins? If a pin from a powered-down STM32H743 is connected to a pin on another (fully powered) device, what current drain will occur?

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prain
prainBest answer
Visitor II
Jul 30, 2020 3:59 AM UTC

when VDD is zero you may damage protection diodes:

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TDK
Jul 29, 2020 10:10 PM UTC

Definitely a situation you should avoid.

 

The protection diodes are going to try to sink as much current as possible. They're either going to sink enough to bring the voltage down to 0.3V, or the diode is going to blow out. Or possibly the device will get backpowered. Not a test I want to run.

Wrong, see below.

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prain
prainBest answer
Visitor II
Jul 30, 2020 3:59 AM UTC

when VDD is zero you may damage protection diodes:

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damon kutten
Associate II
Jul 30, 2020 5:41 PM UTC

Thank you. That answers my question.

Uwe Bonnes
Chief
Jul 30, 2020 7:50 PM UTC

Look in the datasheet. FT pins are high impedance between 0 and 4 Volt .

TDK
Jul 30, 2020 9:15 PM UTC

Yeah, I was totally wrong on this. Apologies. Thanks for the correction @Uwe Bonnes.

I tested it on a board as well. PA0 sits happily at 3.3V while VDD=GND=0 with no ill effects. I didn't measure the drain, but I had it hooked up with a 10 kOhm resistor in series and it had a negligible voltage drop, so drain is much less than 1mA.

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damon kutten
Associate II
Jul 30, 2020 9:47 PM UTC

Thanks for the clarification and the additional work you both have done on this issue.

Do you have the location in the STM32H743 datasheet that indicates high impedance?

waclawek.jan
Super User
Aug 6, 2020 6:26 PM UTC

Zero current at any voltage (within given range) means high impedance.

JW

Uwe Bonnes
Chief
Aug 6, 2020 4:46 PM UTC

go to st.com, search STM32H7 and follow the links

damon kutten
Associate II
Sep 9, 2020 2:16 PM UTC

This is question for TDK:

You did your test with a 10Kohm resistor and found a "negligible voltage drop".

Is it possible for you to repeat this test with a 100Kohm resistor, or a 1Mohm resistor?

TDK
Sep 9, 2020 2:26 PM UTC

The answer by @prain here is incorrect. You should mark Uwe Bonnes's answer as the right one.

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damon kutten
Associate II
Sep 9, 2020 2:39 PM UTC

To TDK:

Yes, Uwe Bonnes' answer is correct.

This was confirmed by the 10Kohm series resistor measurement that you took.

I am interested in any additional data you could obtain by using a 100Kohm resistor or 1Mohm resistor in place of the 10Kohm resistor.