Skip to main content
hashtala
Associate III
Apr 30, 2020 11:44 PM UTC
Solved

Bare metal STM32F767 proper powering

Hello

This is my first time soldering a MCU on a custom PCB.

As you know, STM32f767 is a very complicated chip and requires Vdd and Vss on many pins. Datasheet also states that capacitors are mandatory on each Vdd or Vref+. However Vref and Vdd (marked on figure) are neighbors and I was wondering if I can use one capacitor for both of them.

Could you also tell me if this is a proper way of placing capacitors ? Max distance from Vdd line and cap is 8mm.

As you can see, there is only one track and its obviously Vdd line.

Of course I am not done with placing all caps and tracking Vdds to pins. I first need to know if this kind of principle is going to work

 0693W000000Wm87QAC.png

0693W000000Wm82QAC.png

This topic has been closed for replies.
TDK
TDKBest answer
May 1, 2020 2:23 AM UTC

Your images show up.

You will find many different opinions on how to place decoupling caps. In general, the closer the better.

Using the same cap for VREF+/VDDA seems fine, unless you want to really optimize ADC noise performance.

Take a look at ST's own layouts to see how they do things. Here's an example from a Nucleo board so you can see how far the decoupling caps are. Some boards out there have decoupling caps way farther away than this--maybe 1cm or so, and yet the board works fine. It really depends how you're using things.

0693W000000WmEjQAK.png

"If you feel a post has answered your question, please click ""Accept as Solution""."

4 replies

hashtala
hashtalaAuthor
Associate III
Apr 30, 2020 11:44 PM UTC

I tried to add images but I guess I do not have permissions yet

TDK
TDKBest answer
May 1, 2020 2:23 AM UTC

Your images show up.

You will find many different opinions on how to place decoupling caps. In general, the closer the better.

Using the same cap for VREF+/VDDA seems fine, unless you want to really optimize ADC noise performance.

Take a look at ST's own layouts to see how they do things. Here's an example from a Nucleo board so you can see how far the decoupling caps are. Some boards out there have decoupling caps way farther away than this--maybe 1cm or so, and yet the board works fine. It really depends how you're using things.

0693W000000WmEjQAK.png

"If you feel a post has answered your question, please click ""Accept as Solution""."
Piranha
Principal III
May 2, 2020 3:51 PM UTC

It should be noted that the shown physical layout of PCB traces is pretty wrong!

https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/74509/how-to-place-decoupling-capacitor-in-four-layer-pcb

hashtala
hashtalaAuthor
Associate III
May 2, 2020 8:25 PM UTC

thanks for letting me know that.

However, since I am using only single layer and rails are very thick and rather straight, I dont think it will have that much inductance and resistance.

For time being. I will go with this layout. However, if it does not work I will try to do what was suggested. I will post feedback