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richard239955_stm1
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December 7, 2017
Question

Are these appropriate LoRaWAN learning tools

  • December 7, 2017
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Posted on December 07, 2017 at 03:29

I own a NUCLEO-L053R8.

Is it appropriate to get a I-NUCLEO-LRWAN1, plug it into the NUCLEO  and use the I-CUBE-LRWAN (STM32CubeExpansion_LRWAN_V1.1.2) to start learning LoRaWAN?

Is the NUCLEO-L053R8 with the I-NUCLEO-LRWAN1 plugged in essentially the same as a B-L072Z-LRWAN1???

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    Andrew Neil
    Super User
    December 7, 2017
    Posted on December 07, 2017 at 16:21

    Why risk it?

    Why not just get a B-L072Z-LRWAN1 Discovery board, or a P-Nucleo-LRWAN1 kit?

    http://www.st.com/en/evaluation-tools/b-l072z-lrwan1.html

     

    http://www.st.com/en/evaluation-tools/p-nucleo-lrwan1.html

     

    That way, you know you have a complete kit, and you get ready-to-run examples specifically made for it - no messing about with trying to ensure that everything is compatible.

    Simples!

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    Andrew Neil
    Super User
    December 7, 2017
    Posted on December 07, 2017 at 16:28

    Is the NUCLEO-L053R8 with the I-NUCLEO-LRWAN1 plugged in essentially the same as a B-L072Z-LRWAN1???

    Ah - no, it isn't.

    The 

    I-NUCLEO-LRWAN1 has a USI module and is really just intended as a dumb modem - using AT commands:

    http://www.st.com/en/evaluation-tools/i-nucleo-lrwan1.html

     

    The USI module has a 

    Semtech SX127

    2

    radio.

    As noted elsewhere, the USI documentation is, well, 'lacking' ...

    >:(

    The Discovery board uses a muRata module with SX127

    6

    , and is well documented.

    Note that the 

    P-Nucleo-LRWAN1 kit also use the 

    SX127

    2

    .

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    Tesla DeLorean
    Guru
    December 7, 2017
    Posted on December 07, 2017 at 16:33

    The USI part can be reprogrammed, but it's a non-ideal development platform. The LRWAN that ST supplies is relatively portable across boards and platforms.

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    Andrew Neil
    Super User
    December 7, 2017
    Posted on December 07, 2017 at 16:39

    Indeed - but the OP specifically asked about this as a starting point.

    Of course, stuff can be ported & adapted - but I really don't think that's great as

    a

    starting

    point.

    tomkins.richard

    ‌ -

    Turvey.Clive

    ‌ has postedextensively about his adventures with this stuff - including the porting across various boards...

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    Tesla DeLorean
    Guru
    December 7, 2017
    Posted on December 07, 2017 at 16:52

    The P-NUCLEO-LRWAN1 package includes both shield and Nucleo board ($70), it is the most expensive path. You can buy the shield and board separately more cheaply. The SX1272 shield can be bought more cheaply $25, and a Nucleo for $10, but you already have that.

    https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Semtech/SX1272MB2DAS/?qs=5aG0NVq1C4w5nso72Adcfw%3d%3d

     

    https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/STMicroelectronics/P-NUCLEO-LRWAN1/?qs=LtAzLad%252boeUT0TtoCWMp6w%3d%3d

     

    The B-L072Z-LRWAN1 is a different beast, and perhaps the optimum development/learning platform. The L0 has 192KB of FLASH, and the module uses the SX1276 radio.

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    Tesla DeLorean
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    December 7, 2017
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