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Martin1
Associate II
May 14, 2018
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How does one configure the Inertia and Friction parameters in ST MC Workbench

  • May 14, 2018
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Posted on May 14, 2018 at 16:13

Hi,

When not using the motor profiler and instead writing all details by hand into the Motor Control Workbench (with Hall Sensors, Manual editing of PI variables disabled) at Motor - Parameters, there are fields for Inertia and Friction. So far, so good. Just the units are a bit confusing:

Inertia: uN*m*s2

Friction: uN*m*s

I thought that inertia had the units kg*m² and friction N*m, which I wasn't able to match with the given units.

Any clues how to do this right? Also does u stand for micro in this case or for something else?

Thanks,

Martin

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Best answer by M. Palano
Posted on May 15, 2018 at 16:30

Hello Mr. Martin,

Yes sure, you are right, in that form the units are a bit confusing. Thank you for reporting this problem, we will try to improve them.

About 'u', yes, it

stands for micro (1E-6)

and

`N` stands for Newton the

SI

unit of Force(

1 Newton is equal to 1 kg

·

m

·

s-2)

https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/07948745d4db778de832933915f84be8bd9b4ded

So: N·m·s² = kg·m²

Hope this can help.

Best Regards.

3 replies

M. Palano
M. PalanoBest answer
ST Employee
May 15, 2018
Posted on May 15, 2018 at 16:30

Hello Mr. Martin,

Yes sure, you are right, in that form the units are a bit confusing. Thank you for reporting this problem, we will try to improve them.

About 'u', yes, it

stands for micro (1E-6)

and

`N` stands for Newton the

SI

unit of Force(

1 Newton is equal to 1 kg

·

m

·

s-2)

https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/07948745d4db778de832933915f84be8bd9b4ded

So: N·m·s² = kg·m²

Hope this can help.

Best Regards.

Martin1
Martin1Author
Associate II
May 16, 2018
Posted on May 16, 2018 at 08:27

Nice, Palano. That works perfectly for the Inertia.

Can you also explain how to make sense of N*m*s instead of N*m? Or explain what kind of friction is meant here if not frictional torque?

Many thanks!

M. Palano
ST Employee
May 17, 2018
Posted on May 17, 2018 at 14:43

Hello Mr. Martin,

As you correctly said, the unit of measurement of the Friction Torque is [N·m]

The item required in the form of our tool, measured in [N·m·s], is the coefficient of the Friction Torque.

Friction

 

Torque

[N·m] : 

TF

=  Î²Â·�?‰

where �?‰

 

is the angular velocity (Rad/s) and Î²

 

is the coefficient required by MC-Workbench [N·m·s].

If not directly available, the the ST-MotorProfiler could be an effective way to detect it; in alternative, use external equipment like torque meter and speed meter.

With Best Regards.

Laurent Ca...
Senior III
June 28, 2021

The question has been moved from the "Motor Control Hardware" section to the "STM32 Motor Control" section (the question is about the STM32 MC SDK). 

Best regards