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ST87M01 user application program

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Dear,

I have an application that is very simple and instead of hooking up a STM32C01x to the ST87M01 I would like to know if I can program my own application inside of it?

Regards,

Roland

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Didier HERROUINBest answer

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Dear Roland,

This is correct, actually the ST87M01 core is not opened to customer application hosting.
ST87M01 is probably not the cheapest, but as you mentioned, this is the smallest and it embeds a GNSS positioning with a Wifi scanning back-up in the same 12.8*10.5 mm package. Moreover, it proposes a unique embedded Energy estimator, at no cost, which accurately measure the modem consumption for battery lifetime monitoring.

Finally, the 15 years longevity program, the lowest CO2 eq and a product 100% made in Europe should be also considered in the global picture.

Thank you for your inquiry,

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Tesla DeLorean

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My initial hot-take is no, and it would likely complicate certification and power management.

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Andrew Neil

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Wavecom (which became Sierra Wireless; now Semtech) did it with their "Open-AT"

I think Quectel has (had?) a similar arrangement.

And the likes of Nordic do it by having an "Application" core separate from the "Comms/Network" core.

But I see no sign of any of that on this part.

A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that worked.A complex system designed from scratch never works and cannot be patched up to make it work.

roland van stratenAuthor

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Dear Andrew,

That is just to bad.

The ST87M01 is not the cheapest around, but real volume could be interesting.

Now, it seems it is at least twice the price of a Quectel NB-IoT only.

The one thing that is interesting is the longevity program and its size.

Thanks,

R.

Didier HERROUIN

ST Technical Moderator

Dear Roland,

Since last month, the ST87M01 is now proposed for Mass Market customers in 2 versions :

ST87M01-1001 = version with NBIOT only
ST87M01-1301 = Adding positioning (GPS and WiFi sniffing)

As stated above, I can confirm that hosting a customer application is feasible for specific customers/projects, as it requires a huge support from our SW team, but this is not a Mass Market oriented.

Regards.

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Andrew Neil

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@Didier HERROUIN wrote:
it requires a huge support from our SW team

So, presumably, will only only be available to customers with a huge-volume product?

A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that worked.A complex system designed from scratch never works and cannot be patched up to make it work.

Didier HERROUIN

ST Technical Moderator

Yes, your presumption is correct.

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