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Pavel A.
Pavel A.
January 18, 2018
Question

Jive... Community vs. forum?

  • January 18, 2018
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Posted on January 18, 2018 at 11:40

Congratulations for fixing the forum! (knocking on a wood)

A confusing thing for newcomers like myself is that questions can be asked in the STM32 Forum and in the STM32 Community. The latter IMHO is confusing and should be disabled. People can post questions outside of the forum and wonder why there's no replies.  Or, when posting  question directly to the community there should be a prominent notice that the question isn't going to the forum.

Regards,

Pavel A.

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    waclawek.jan
    waclawek.jan
    Super User
    January 18, 2018
    Posted on January 18, 2018 at 12:02

    While +1 for removing the mess (and I've said this already at the short beta stage back then), the forum hasn't been fixed yet, it still throws 'unexpected error' for me.

    It's been selective in this all the time.

    JW

    Tesla DeLorean
    Tesla DeLorean
    Guru
    January 18, 2018
    Posted on January 18, 2018 at 17:18

    Would agree there are too many places to post things, and too many ways to categorize a post.

    >>

    People can post questions outside of the forum and wonder why there's no replies. 

    It is usually for reasons other than visibility, the feeds that I look at don't filter on the type or placement of a question.

    Questions that lack foundation and context, are chronically vague, or just aren't of interest, are ignored. Responses aren't guaranteed, and are dependent on participation. Bumping vacuous threads doubles down on the original problem.

    The 'HELP! I can't put on my pants', or 'URGENT: Can you read the manual to me, I'm lazy, ASAP' type posts are also likely to be ignored.

    The moderators are reasonably efficient at moving things to where they deem the right place is, I frequently see my stuff moved, not going to try and hurt my head thinking about it.  The site is clearly someone's vision of how it should look/work.

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    Andrew Neil
    Andrew Neil
    Super User
    January 19, 2018
    Posted on January 19, 2018 at 10:39

    Clive One wrote:

    The moderators are reasonably efficient at moving things to where they deem the right place is,

    It would be useful if users could flag posts that seem to be 'in the wrong place' - especially 'hijacks' within a thread.

    A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that worked.A complex system designed from scratch never works and cannot be patched up to make it work.
    Tesla DeLorean
    Tesla DeLorean
    Guru
    January 19, 2018
    Posted on January 19, 2018 at 14:31

    In most forums you just flag the post and it goes into the moderators queue, this is the level of granularity Andrew and I are looking for.

    Here I think there is a 'Report Abuse' type Action, or you can 'Share' the entire thread.

    When working it was possible to grab the posts time tag from the thread view and provide a link to that, but the 'new look' Jive removed that functionality

    What I'd like to see is an 'Action' in ALL views to 'Mark for Review'

    Remember also that the moderator view of the forum doesn't mirror the view presented to regular users.

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    Bogdan Golab
    Bogdan Golab
    Lead
    January 18, 2018
    Posted on January 18, 2018 at 17:44

    I also do not care where I post a topic.

    The most important thing is that the forum/community has very active members and you can get help really quickly in most cases. Some members of the forum are real experts and you get many details you cannot find easily.

    Welcome aboard!

    Francesco CARIATI
    Francesco CARIATI
    Visitor II
    January 19, 2018
    Posted on January 19, 2018 at 04:55

    Hi

    pavel_a

    ‌

    Golab.Bogdan

    ‌

    Turvey.Clive.002

    ‌

    Jive-x uses the following hierarchy (with some examples for you to understand it better)

    Root Space

    Community (Space) -->

    https://community.st.com/community/stm32-community

    Sub-spaces -->

    https://community.st.com/community/stm32-community/places

    Categories -->

    https://community.st.com/community/stm32-community/stm32-forum/content?filterID=contentstatus%5Bpublished%5D~category%5Bstm32-evaluation-tools%5D

    Andrew Neil
    Andrew Neil
    Super User
    January 19, 2018
    Posted on January 19, 2018 at 09:54

    That just makes it more confusing - 'STM32 MCUs Community' is both a '

    Community (Space)' and a '

    Sub-space'?!

    But, as

    Turvey.Clive.002

    ‌ says, posts in the 'wrong' place do quite quickly get moved to the 'right' place ...

    A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that worked.A complex system designed from scratch never works and cannot be patched up to make it work.
    Francesco CARIATI
    Francesco CARIATI
    Visitor II
    January 19, 2018
    Posted on January 19, 2018 at 10:09

    No.

    Click on the links, don't stop at their title 

    S.Ma
    S.Ma
    Principal
    January 20, 2018
    Posted on January 20, 2018 at 12:29

    Looks like unexpected error pops up even by clicking on this post. Only comment works. logged or not.

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