Both UM1974 & UM2179 have exactly the same title:
So how are we supposed to distinguish the two - without having to open both ?
These documents refer to different set of nucle-144 boards.
When you select a 144 pin boards here:
STM32 MCU Nucleo - STMicroelectronics
you will see the particular version of the nucle0-144 document for particular board:
NUCLEO-L4R5ZI - STM32 Nucleo-144 development board with STM32L4R5ZI MCU, supports Arduino, ST Zio and morpho connectivit…
NUCLEO-H743ZI - STM32 Nucleo-144 development board with STM32H743ZI MCU, supports Arduino, ST Zio and morpho connectivit…
I think Andrew's point is that it needs to be more obvious from the outside.
The divergence has started with the availability of Ethernet, and now the L4(+) parts.
I simply described how I use these documents.
I started from selecting a board so it was not misleading to me as only one document is shown on the particular board page.
Maybe the ST also assumed that we start from selecting a board.
Also there a column Part Numbers which might help someone differentiate boards...
That misses the point.
The point is that the title should distinguish the documents.
Two different documents should not have identical titles.
Not sure how you concluded that I missed the point....
What I want to say: same names do not matter as the the right document is available from the particular product page.
The typical use case is as follows: find a nucleo-144 board -> then find right documents describing the product. And this works because the document (the right one) is available from a product page.
For those who want to see both document on the same page, there is a column with PN (applicable MCU list) on the page where two documents are available so they can be easy differentiated.
Bogdan, there are other ways to find these documents. And with these other ways, e.g. some search like for "nucleo manual" same name for different documents matters.
Would you like to add the whole list of part numbers to the document name?
Naming them and managing them is a difficult proposition. What ever they choose to do someone is not going to like it.
I, like Andrew, think the from title page should be different, and titles provided on the website should have a title/summary that is different for two documents describing different boards, or sub-set/class of boards.
I would like to see historic versions listed in descending order, not hidden in a drop-down, or click-thru
Well, some of the chip User Manuals & Datasheets do have a long list of part numbers in the title ...
But, seriously, there must be some simple distinction between the boards covered in one, and the boards covered in the other?
Even if it's purely that one covers older boards, and the other covers newer boards - then call them "Volume 1" and "Volume 2" or suchlike.
Again, the basic principle is that two different things should not both have the same name!
How hard is that?
Clive One wrote:I think Andrew's point is that it needs to be more obvious from the outside.
Clive One wrote:
Yes - that is exactly the point!
I honestly got tired of the en.DM00123456.pdf name eons ago, and rename things using the DM number as a base and then a condensed description of the type of manual, rough parts covered, and revision number. That way I have some hope of pulling it out of my STM32 PDF directory.
I also asked ST to put a complete list of older revisions on the same page so I didn't have to dig for them.
IMO it's not the naming of documents flawed, but the naming of boards.
They are different (or populated differently) thus they should have distinct names - and then the names of the documents would follow that.
PS more mess https://community.st.com/thread/41211-where-is-the-graphics-from-the-nucleo-webpage#comment-159148
Yes - presumably there is some key difference between the "Nucleo 144" boards covered in one, and the "Nucleo 144" boards covered in the other - so that should be reflected in both the board names and the corresponding document titles.
Rather like there is the "Nucleo 64" seriews, and the "Nucleo 64-P" series - each with its own appropriately-titled User Manual.
(Although ISTR I couldn't find any clear definition of the difference between the 64 and 64-P, without having to trawl through the 2 User Manuals - but that's another story.)
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