2025-07-18 12:14 AM - last edited on 2025-07-18 12:59 AM by Andrew Neil
Dear ST Team,
I am currently working on a 24V @ 1.5A sensorless BLDC motor control application using the following setup:
Issues Observed:
We have profiled the motor multiple times using Motor Pilot, and each profiling run gave slightly different values for parameters such as Friction, Inertia, and Back-EMF constant.
To address this, we tested the system using the average, minimum, and maximum values obtained from multiple profiles. However, the same issues persisted across all tests — specifically during startup, low-speed operation, and at maximum speed.
We’ve attached a profiling table for your reference
Max Current | R(ohm) | L(mH) | K(Vrms/kRPM) | F(uN.m.s) | Inertia(uN.m.s2) | Max RPM |
1.2 | 1.58 | 1.24 | 26.33 | 753.61 | 22608.98 | 306 |
1.2 | 1.59 | 1.25 | 26.93 | 937.67 | 28131.12 | 312 |
1.3 | 1.59 | 1.26 | 27 | 1242.01 | 37261.63 | 330 |
1.3 | 1.6 | 1.27 | 28.61 | 1339.53 | 40187.38 | 336 |
1.35 | 1.6 | 1.28 | 28.76 | 1497.54 | 44927.62 | 348 |
1.4 | 1.6 | 1.22 | 32.05 | 965.57 | 28967.94 | 324 |
1.4 | 1.61 | 1.23 | 32.3 | 1422 | 42661.48 | 330 |
1.4 | 1.6 | 1.21 | 29.03 | 754.78 | 22644.21 | 336 |
1.4 | 1.61 | 1.28 | 31.05 | 1050.73 | 31523.09 | 336 |
1.4 | 1.62 | 1.22 | 26.66 | 1198.17 | 25946.32 | 354 |
1.4 | 1.62 | 1.21 | 28.96 | 879.03 | 26371.63 | 336 |
Table 1
Request for Support:
Any documentation, configuration guidance, or tuning tips specific to IHM16M1 and F401RE with sensorless FOC control would be highly appreciated.
Thank you in advance for your support.
Best regards,
Rahul
2025-07-18 1:45 AM - edited 2025-07-18 4:48 AM
Hello @Bablu,
For Error description and management, refer to documentation available through "Workbench tool">About>Documentations>Documentation>"User manual" tab, "(FOC) Firmware errors" link.
At such low RPM values, 6-Step algorithm could be a better choice.
2025-07-18 3:02 AM
Hi @GMA ,
Thank you for your response.
We have already reviewed the 'FOC Firmware Errors' section in the User Manual, as suggested. However, our concern is not limited to interpreting error codes, we are trying to identify and resolve the root causes of the faults from the IHM16M1 and undesired motor behavior observed during startup, low-speed, and high-speed conditions, specifically with sensorless FOC control on the IHM16M1 board.
We would like to clarify:
We would appreciate specific technical guidance on the following:
Kindly advise us on how to proceed with stabilizing the FOC algorithm under these operating conditions.
Thank you for your continued support.
Best regards,
Rahul
2025-07-18 8:43 AM
Hello @Bablu,
The "FOC Firmware Errors" section in the User Manual describes the errors and provides guidance on how to address them.
What do you mean by "faults from the IHM16M1"?
2025-07-20 10:23 PM
Thank you for your follow-up.
By "faults from the IHM16M1," we mean that the red fault LED on the IHM16M1 board starts blinking continuously while the motor is running, particularly:
During this fault condition:
We would like to understand:
We are using sensorless FOC with rev-up enabled and observer mode switched on above 25% of nominal speed. Motor parameters are profiled using Motor Pilot.
Any pointers on how to diagnose this fault and make the system more stable during low-speed operation would be greatly appreciated.
Best regards,
Rahul
2025-07-21 12:34 AM
Hello @Bablu,
IHM16M1 D1 RED LED is linked to STSPIN830 EN_FAULT signal. It is connected via PB12 to BKIN TIM1 STM32F401RE input and should stop processing when error is detected. Or "Driver Protection" feature has been disabled on workbench user interface, or board hardware configurations are not correct. Refer to IHM16 user manual.
2025-07-21 1:06 AM
Hello @GMA
Thank you for the clarification regarding the fault LED and its connection to the EN_FAULT signal on the STSPIN830 driver.
We understand that the red LED on the IHM16M1 board indicates that a fault condition(and audible noise at fault condition) has been detected by the driver. We’ve also verified that the “Driver Protection” feature is enabled in MC Workbench and that the hardware configuration (BKIN on PB12) is correct.
However, our main concern is not how the fault is detected, but rather:
How to identify the root cause and prevent these faults from happening during low-speed operation, transitions to low speed and startup. These faults only occur at or near low RPM, and do not trigger a hard stop unless reset.
We would greatly appreciate if you could provide practical debugging steps, recommended tuning strategies, or even a set of Motor Pilot variables to log, so we can isolate the real issue and resolve it without switching away from FOC.
Thank you for your continued support.
Best regards,
Rahul